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    It has just come to my attention that Tavistock (also known as the City of London's Tavistock Institute), which is an extremely dangerous group who are masters of masquerading as promoting education and civil services are now setting up centers to "Help LGBT people achieve their goals" -- what they don't say is that they believe LGBT people are seriously deluded and don't know what their goals really are -- but Tavistock does, and being gay or trans are NOT among them). In reality, they are a collaborative arm of the Shadow Government (and yes the Shadow Government DOES EXIST {I used to have very high security clearance in over a dozen countries, and I KNOW}) that is intimately connected with the American CIA, and the British Royal Family. During WWII they (Tavistock) pioneered the modern techniques of brainwashing and propaganda, so they are very very good at convincing even highly credible groups and agencies that they are "good guys" -- they are not, they are as dangerous as any group in the world today.

    This becomes relevant to the LGBT community because, under the banner of the City of London's Tavistock Institute, they are setting up centers that claim to be the source of all kinds of good services for LGBT people in crisis. What they actually do in these "rehabilitation centers" is to brainwash people into thinking that they are straight, and that there is no such thing as a man born into a woman's body, or vise versa. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PIONEERED THE MODERN TECHNIQUES OF BRAINWASHING AND PROPAGANDA!!! Even legitimate medical, psychological, and social groups have bought into their lies because they INVENTED THE MODERN TECHNIQUES OF [EFFECTIVE] PROPAGANDA AND BRAINWASHING!!! Don't take my word for it, go read about them for yourself at :https://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwotavistockbestkeptsecret.shtml. DO NOT LET YOUR PARENTS, DOCTOR, OR ANYBODY ELSE GET YOU INVOLVED WITH TAVISTOCK! One of their aims is to eliminate homosexuality and transsexuality from the face of the Earth! (Though they will make you believe that they are here to help you achieve your goals -- they just fail to mention that they think they know better than you what your goals [really] are, and being gay or trans are not among them.) All I can do is warn you.
     
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    Thanks for this!
     
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    Thanks for this.

    To complicate it further there is a genuine Tavistock clinic which is the main place for children’s gender services in the country. But the two are very different.
     
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    I'd be very careful about seeing them as different. Tavistock's roots go way, way back -- they are part of the New World Order and the Illuminati (and the dark side of the American CIA and the British Royal Family {and yes, they both have a dark side}).

    Tavistock's "modern" history began in WW I and they hit their stride during WW II when they developed and refined the modern "sciences" of brainwashing and propaganda. Nobody does propaganda like Tavistock. I would suspect that the supposedly "very different" Tavistock clinic is really a propaganda tool to try to clean up the name. Why would a legitimate organization adopt that name?

    Because they are so good at propaganda and brainwashing (they're the best -- as good as it gets, and they are frighteningly good at what they do), who knows what subliminal messages the kids and their parents are receiving from the people at this clinic (from all their clinics under many different names). I'd want to see statistics on people who have received their services, and see how many of those people turned out to be anything other than cis-het.

    From what I know, their "gender clinics" are all very much tools to further their agenda of stamping out homosexuality and transgender/transsexualism. The "gender clinic" label is just bait to get people to bring their "confused" kids in, but what actually goes on, though it appears to be legitimate services, is just very well camouflaged brainwashing to "cure" kids of their delusions, and "help them realize" that they are really cis het.

    In the minds of the Tavistock people, these clinics are for the purpose of "curing" homosexuality and transness. "Yes Mrs. Jones, little Suzy will be just fine. Turns out it was just a phase she was going through. She thought for a while that she was gay, but she had been confused by movies, the Internet, and some of her friends. With our state of the art "counseling" techniques, we helped her to realize that she was just following a popular but misguided trend. She's all "straightened out" now though. She now "knows" that she's really just a normal little girl, and is looking forward to eventually marrying a man and having children, and living a "normal, healthy, Christian life."

    When you are dealing with the most skilled propagandists in the world, you can pretty much assume that what you see is not what you get. I don't care what they say, show me kids who were helped by this clinic to understand their feeling of being born in the wrong body, or of being attracted to same sex individuals.

    The entire concept of Gender Clinics just doesn't ring true with me. How desperately confused does a kid have to be to need a clinic to figure themselves out? As most of us know, it's not the kids who need help understanding things, it's their parents. Most kids who are confused about their gender are confused by their parents. Focusing on kids whose parents see them as being confused about their gender smacks of playing to the parent's desire to have their kids be "normal."

    I am working with a young person right now (M2F trans) whose mother wants to send her to the London Tavistock center, rather than to an endocrinologist. The kid is not confused in the least -- she's a girl stuck in a boys body and she knows that for certain (and she is spot on -- I know trans when I see it, and this kid is a true transsexual who needs HRT, not therapy, or counseling, or any other such bullshit). The only help she needs is a psychologist who will properly diagnose her (a no-brainer), and recommend her to an endo for HRT. It's her intransigent mother who wants to keep her little boy and doesn't want a little girl instead (though that's exactly what she already has) who needs to see a specialist (in accepting reality, and learning about transsexuality so she can be a good parent to her daughter {sorry Mom, that's what you've got -- educate yourself, don't subject your kid to a bunch of BS when she already knows what's going on}).

    I need to see a properly done, properly controlled, peer reviewed and duplicated after-study of individuals who have been through whatever it is that Tavistock does. How many of them are LGBTQ+ people? How many of them are truly happy? How many of them are psychologically sound and stable? And again and most of all, how many of them are not cis-het? Statistics should hold for post-Tavistock people. There should be the same percentage of LGBTQ+ individuals among post-Tavistock people as there is in the population at large, but I'll bet the farm, there's not.

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    These people need to be destroyed.
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree. Got any ideas?
     
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    OK, I admit I didn't research Educate-Yourself, but if it is as you say, it's odd that they would bash Tavistock, as their goals would appear to be similar. All the easy to find information on Tavistock is bs. It was not founded 40 years ago, but during WWI. The underground of Free World intelligence has known about and has been watching Tavistock since WWII. Most of the accurate information about Tavistock is highly classified, but I used to have very high security clearance and have seen and read the real Tavistock Handbook (the version I saw was last revised in 1956 -- there may be more recent versions).

    The roots of what became Tavistock were formed during the reign of Kaiser Willhelm II in 1915 or 1916. During WWII Tavistock developed the still used and extremely effective "science" of brainwashing, and later developed highly effective techniques for disseminating effective propaganda and misinformation. After WWII, with Germany in ruins, Tavistock (which is a private group, not part of any government) marketed it's services to the British Royal Family, and the American CIA. I'm sorry I can't provide references, as all the hard information I know of is highly classified.

    Keep in mind, these are the people who turned brainwashing into a science, and who created the also still used techniques of propaganda and misinformation. It stands to reason therefore that their highest profile public image would appear to be stellar. There is a dark side to the British Royal Family, and the American CIA -- far darker than most people can imagine, and it is in those two groups that Tavistock now finds it's power base.

    I know all this is hard to verify because of the effectiveness of Tavistock's expertise in propaganda and misinformation, and the fact that much (most) of the hard evidence remains classified, but when I read that the London Tavistock Institute was soliciting for parents of "gender confused youth" to send their kids to the London Tavistock Institute for inpatient counseling, red flags went up all over the place for me, as one of Tavistock's [private] goals is to eliminate homosexuality and transsexuality from the face of the Earth, so I posted the earlier warning. Because of Tavistock's success at cleaning up their public image after WWII, with the help of the British Royal Family, the only anti Tavistock article I found was the one I linked to in my opening post. If this source is as unreliable as you say (and it may well be), it's unfortunate I didn't find a better reference, but I wanted to get that warning out there ASAP. Sorry if the reference isn't from a reliable source, but few outside the Intelligence community know the real story behind Tavistock, and it remains classified information (I wonder why).

    Respectfully,
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    I'm not really aboard for things that I can't personally prove... but I can say this much. You can't 'cure' gay, and it doesn't need curing. Anyone trying to do that, well, lol. They're wasting their time. Various iterations have been tried (shocks, aversion therapy, pray the gay away, etc etc), and to the limits of my knowing all have failed for the most obvious of reasons.

    I'm not gay, but when I was still ignorant about it, yeah... I asked a gay family friend a whole lot of questions that would've made my ma hang her head in shame. The answer to one of these was as follows:

    "(Laughing) Who in the world would ever choose to be gay?"

    I think that's what really drove it home...
    That it wasn't a choice. It just was. They didn't just wake up, smell the flowers and go, "ahh that was a great 20 year stretch. Time to try man on man! Yolo!"

    (Also if that last bit is crossing the line, I uh... kinda figured that'd toe it? Just let me know if that joke was a little too far and I'll tone it down)
     
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    Yes. It is true all you say about Tavistock. Very evil group and they DO brainwash and experiment on people. Stay far away from the System. I have a theory. I believe in reincarnation. Say i'm a female - which i am, but instead of being attracted to a Man i am attracted to a Woman. Why? And why was i BORN this way? I believe that in a past life i was a Man and i still have some of those feelings left over. So when a man is attracted to another man - in His past life he was probably a female. And for the bi sexuals - well, they were both male and female in a past life and so are attracted to both. It's the only thing that makes sense of why we are born this way., and i believe we ARE born this way. I believe it's in our genes and we just can't help it. Nothing will change us, and to us it's perfectly NORMAL to feel and be this way.
     
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    When i was just 6 yrs old i saw Peter Pan and for YEARS afterwards i had the biggest crush on Mary Martin who played Peter Pan. I never gave it much thought tho. In 4th grade i had a crush on my female teacher, and when older in my late 20's i had a crush on the female bartender and always asked to work on HER shift. She looked femme, but had some hard edges and was tough like a marine sargent on the girls working there. No one wanted to work on her shift. , and yes, i used to write her notes too! And most of the time she put me on Her shift. I can't help it. My thing is to write notes. Oh, i forgot to mention that i also had a HUGE crush on my female Doctor back in my 30's! I used to write her notes all the time, and believe it or not we became very good friends. She was 20 yrs older than me and straight. I just Adored her! I liked her SO much that i even went to her church and then she took me on two trips. We drove to Georgia and we drove to NY city. I was in heaven. We slept in the same bed believe it or not. But like i said, she was total straight. She knew i adored her, and one time when i was helping her in the office, and she went home. I looked in my file and i found a card i had sent her with a long letter. She had SAVED it in my file! She didn't throw it away. One time when we were driving she asked me: "Are you a Feminist?" I don't know why she asked me that. Like i said, she was born 20 years before me. She is very old now i hear from her son and not doing so well. I have wonderful memories of spending time with her. So yeah, i guess i've had female crushes my whole life, but didn't pay much attention to them.
     
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    Wait-Shadow Government? Is that really what it's called?

    I hate laughing at such a horrible thing, but that's such a tinfoil hat-y name.
    Nah, bro, don't worry about it, you really nailed how those kinds of people sound, and I'm not going to lie, the way you worded it made me crack a smile.
    It's hard to think that, even in times of oppression and criminalization, people will just wake up one day and say "Hey, bro, you know what would be funny? What if I went ahead and just go make out for the lulz". If it was a choice, do you really think people would basically choose to get stoned to death in places like the middle east even when there's the option to just be with the opposite sex?

    You don't choose who you do or do not love, period. Why do you think anyone, even straight people, get so depressed from break-ups? They can just choose to love someone else, can't they?
     
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    I think AudryLeigh just became one of my favorite people. I know this topic was originally posted over a year ago. I have been scanning the older posts so I don't know why this one popped up for me only now; maybe the newest replies did it.
    The people in this forum are clearly scattered throughout the world. YAY! internet. What I wonder is whether there is any majority area or even country that somehow is drawn to this website?
    The Tavistock post refers to a group totally new to me. The level of organization referred to just stunned me. Third World countries [hate that term] don't surprise us. Southern religion doesn't surprise us (personal experience with that one); but groups that may sprung from government, gads!
    My beliefs that society as a whole was progressing have totally evaporated over these last two years. I might even have scoffed at this two years ago. Now I know better. I seriously thought old racists and repressive groups were dying off. I guess they still are but clearly not fast enough.
    Thanks for the directing attention AudryLeigh.
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