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Lesbian Transgender and genetics

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    I go to this other site and a question had been ask about transgender genetics. The main idea if I got it right is cismen in the womb didn't get enough estrogen and the brain as a result formed genetics of a female brain thereby the gender (genetics + environment) even though male by sex.

    http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/

    It's too long to summarize but the genetics part is near the middle. If you have time to read it through it's easier to understand the context than jumping unless you're familiar with genetic jargon, anywhere is good.

    So far reading this looks at transgender from a scientific perspective so it's not discrediting other identity factors involved.





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    It seems the link is not working...can you post the article if you can find it?
     
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    Thanks guys!
     
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    I just read the article, and found it very clear and simple for everyone to understand what transgender people really are. Really great for trans people to use when we want to make other people understand what we are.

    I have to read scientific papers for my job, and I know from experience that any cause of disorders that are labeled as psychological are rarely psychological, but they actually stem from either a large part genetic/other predisposed conditions and environmental (such as food habit/lifestyle. In transgender case, it's hormone in the womb of the mother).

    Transgenderism is not considered a mental illness or disorder anymore in DMS-5 (while dysphoria is and some say it's the same thing) and as the article states, and yet this trait had been treated as a mental illness for a very long time. Psychologists have been dragging down the scientific progress by claiming fairly unrelated and very wrong causes for many disorders for very long time, and they are still even today. Sex-determining genes are not just in X or Y, this means, we all share both (men/female) of the genes, and since the discovery of Foxl2 gene, we now know that human body can transform into opposite sex even for adults, and sex/gender is far complicated things than we thought they were.

    Human body is very very complicated, but our brains love to keep everything simple because that's how our brains are programmed to do, and there lies the problem of stereotyping and discrimination. I loved the article covering this part of problem as well.
     
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    Just read the article (and now I'm wishing I hadn't read the comments).
    In my opinion the "how and why" aren't all that important but it these studies help people having something to show when confronted with the unavoidable "you're mentally ill" comments, then all the better...the problem is that most people who say those things couldn't care less about scientific studies because "trans are ruining society"...
     

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