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  1. Iharos
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    Anyone else in here fighting with reoccuring headaches/migranes?
    Since I was a teenager I have had strong headaches, pretty often. It so happened that while is was in my early teens I've had a series of colds in a short time, which led to a chronic sinusitis. It grew slowly, so for the longest time I was unaware of it. Once it got obvious, and I went to medical examination to check it, my doctors suggest surgery.
    I decided to go for an alternative medical treatment, and with time and patience things got better. I can fly again without problems, and also weather changes do not kill me any more.

    But one thing didn't leave - the headaches. I completed a survey on a homepage of a group of doctors that specialised on migranes, and was called back from them - again with a suggestion to undergo surgery. This time on the brain vessels. You see, I have the common migrane, so I do not see auras. I just have the headache and before it happens, I am many times sensitive towards light and/or sound. It is a hint I already learned to take.
    There isn't really much I can do once the headache start - best is to go to bed and sleep until the next morning. This usually helps. It happened a couple of times only that I woke up still having a headache.

    I wouldn't bother you guys here, if this were a thing that would happens once a month or maybe a few times per year. Since a little over a year I keep track of how many headaches I have, and how strong they are:

    2019:
    January - 6 strong
    February - 8 strong
    March - 13 (8 strong, 3 light, 1 medium, 1 very strong)
    April - 4 (1 strong, 3 light)
    May - 6 strong
    June - 3 strong
    July - 4 strong
    August - 4 (2 strong, 2 light)
    September - 9 (1 very strong, 5 strong, 3 light)
    October - 4 (1 very strong, 2 strong, 2 light)
    November - 11 (2 very strong, 7 strong, 2 light)
    December - 3 (1 very strong, 2 strong)

    2020:
    January - 5 (3 strong, 2 light)
    February - 9 (1 very strong, 3 strong, 4 medium, 1 light)
    March - 10 (1 very strong, 3 strong, 1 medium, 5 light)
    April - 12 (5 strong, 3 medium, 4 light)
    May - 11 (7 strong, 4 light)

    Can anyone make some sense out of this? Of course I am going to see a doctor, once the lockdown situation allows me to. I am just curious if anyone else has some similar going, heard or knows of something.

    In case my age plays a role in this - I'm 32.

    Thank you all for taking time to read through this and the more, if you have any suggestions or can contribute somehow. :) 
     
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    Can’t draw any conclusions from your diary. You’d need to keep an activity diary including your diet to discover any pattern of triggers. Sometimes people who suffer gastrointestinal symptoms like reflux, ,constipation , diarrhoea and nausea are also plagued with migraine but as far as I know medical authorities haven’t decided which is cause and which is effect.
    In my infancy I suffered severe migraines invariably preceded by visual disturbances. These manifested as rings of many almost crystalline distortions of my visual field that were constantly in motion. They’d often be so bad I couldn’t see clearly enough to read. For reasons nobody can explain, my migraines ceased totally at about age 9. I still however experience the visual disturbances a few times a year.

    You say you don’t experience such visual symptoms but do you suffer from numbness or feeling weak in the face or one side of the body? If so there can be neurological causes indicating you should consult a neurologist. Also pins and needle sensations in your arm or leg might indicate a similar origin. I found diarrhoea, nausea and vomiting during, and sometimes preceding migraines could be reduced by timely medication but I didn’t always manage to organise it.

    Do you have difficulty speaking during attacks? ( apart from that awful feeling making any noise vibrates your head.) Sometimes I heard noises and music that wasn’t there.

    Another reason to keep a more detailed diary is migraines can be triggered by emotional shocks such as anxiety, stress, excitement or depression.
    Other triggers are shoulder or neck tension, bad posture, tiredness and insufficient sleep. Also intense physical overexertion has been linked to migraines. Jet lag and low blood sugar can also induce attacks. It may be boring and tedious but keeping a detailed diary of any of these events can really help any treating physician. Some sufferers turn out to have attacks triggered by allergies but these are often difficult to determine.

    Oh, and it may help to keep a record of any jerking or uncontrollable movements if you experience them

    Given your table of attacks only covers a limited period it’s hard to detect patterns apart from the fact the later part of the year seems to be your worst.

    You have my sincere sympathy. The worst episode I experienced hit just prior to an organ examination. The local doctor prescribed some form of powerful analgesic that gave an added nightmarish dimension of hallucinations to the attack. I failed the exam.

    Your doctors suggest surgery? But what kind of surgery and at which location in the brain?
     
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    Thanks a lot for you detailed answer! :) 

    I had to change my diet drastically when I started my alternative medicine treatment - that had no effect on the headaches.
    Factors such as stress might have played a role - the past months I stayed at home and had no stress whatsoever. Also other periods where without stress. So, I do not disregard it, but it is not a reoccuring cause.

    I am somewhat lucky in all of this - my migranes do not come with any numbness, any other pain but the one of the head. So I also do not experience difficulties talking - more a difficulty to keep up my good spirits. ;) 

    I have, by nature, a rather good posture, my neck used to be tense since I started growing taller. I am not a giant at all, but above average for a central European.

    The only thing that is somewhat constant are my weaker back muscles. The cause a lot of pain in the shoulders growing up, but over the last couple of years that disappeared nearly completely. So even this isn't something that spans over the entire time of my headaches.

    Also, do to some food allergy and intolerances I had years of time to cut out certain things, incorporate them again and see the difference. It might have had a momentary effect, but in the long run it didn't.

    Well, this surgery that was suggested is a somewhat new procedure, where they artificiall block the large blood vessels on the brain in order for them not to widen during the attack. It does not seem such a big deal, but I am not really happy with the thought of some people working around in my brain. Though they might find plenty to free space to work with. :D 
     
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    Free space? That gave me the giggles. Truth is we all use a very small portion of our brains, even Einsteins.
    Blocking the large vessels on the brain makes a lot of sense. I’d investigate the procedure thoroughly but I suspect no brain cells or connecting ganglions etc would be touched. I presume you’re resident in a country with something like socialised medicine otherwise you could be looking at a very expensive procedure. The question I’d have is this; is widening of the large blood vessels during an attack the result or cause of a migraine episode?

    I wonder if you’ve tried beta-blockers? They’re more often used to control irregular heartbeat and prevent the heart from beating too fast. The major side effect is they prevent you suddenly increasing your pulse when you need to such as suddenly going from a sitting position to standing and running.
    Everything is worth investigating though. Good luck.
     
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    It seems so. There are different types of possible headaches. One is caused by the widening of the blood vessels in the brain. Coffee usually helps me get rid of my headache, if I drink it when I start feeling something. Within an hour or two my headache will be gone in most cases. Lately I've had a few where coffee didn't do anything.
    Coffein has the effect of narrowing down blood vessels - that's why in my case it was/is useful.

    I am not going to undergo this surgery - unless my doctor will tell me that there is literally nothing else I can do. Maybe moving a lonely wintery island. In which case my heart will jump of joy. ^^
    I would probably be able to get the surgery for free, since I have headaches very often. Or maybe I would have to contribute a bit. I am a freelancer, so things are a little different for me. But in general, the health care system works in a way that most things are free - even bigger surgeries when they can be justified by the doctors.
     
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    One aspect of caffine consumption worth considering is if your regular intake is high and you cease drinking it for long enough that in itself can induce severe headaches. Me, I have one mug of home brew each morning to get the old fart moving and that’s it.
     
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    I love the smell of coffee, but its taste isn't something I value very strongly. ^^
    But if it helps me with my headaches, pour me cup of coffee. :) 
     
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    Producing good coffee is a science. I’ve been lucky to have as a friend one of the most brilliant baristas in Australia teach me everything from the precise temperature of the water to which coffee beans to use. I buy a locally roasted bean ‘Columbian Toffee’.
    Today there’s a widespread delusion good coffee should have a bitter ‘Italian’ overtone.
    Reminds me of one of Oscar Wild’s sayings “Fashion is that which is popular and ugly"
     
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    Oh I have less than absolutely no idea of how to brew good coffee. I am rather certain, that I've never had a coffee that tasted really great - maybe the one I had in a small shop, owned by a Tanzanian guy.
     
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    Hello Iharos,

    I read your posts and also John’s excellent responses with great interest and I just wanted to say first of all how sorry I am to read of your suffering with these horrible migraines and to tell you that you aren’t alone in your struggles.

    first of all I must tell you that I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. Both of which can be a cause of migraine and severe headaches.

    I am a long term sufferer of both classic migraine (with aura) and migraine without aura. I also have severe headaches, most of which are cervicogenic headaches. I get occipital migraines too which cause pain in my neck which goes up the back of my head. I get them often. I am a tinnitus sufferer and this can go pulsatile when the headaches are particularly bad.

    I have had MRI and CT scans and there is nothing dangerous going on but I have cervical spondylitis with discs in two places pressing on nerves in my neck and there is quite a narrowing so some of my headaches are caused by this (cervicogenic)

    Have you had your cervical spine checked? Just to rule out any issues there.

    sometimes repeated severe migraines/headaches can also be caused by Chiari malformations or intracranial hypertension can cause severe headaches but these are less likely to be the cause in your case. I was checked for these due to my existing health conditions.

    When I get aura migraine oddly enough I hardly have an accompanying headache, if at all. But my aura can be prolonged and last for hours. I was taken to hospital in an ambulance last year because one of my auras got so bad. I get the visual disturbance that John describes, I lose my ability to speak, I can’t understand language and don’t know what things are in the room. In my head I know what I want to say but it doesn’t come out right. I vomit, I can go unsteady/dizzy and I get numbness on one side in my face or limbs. This can be frightening and can come in bouts of two to three per week for a couple of months then settle back to a pattern of just a couple per year.

    The painful migraine without aura and the other severe headaches that I get are pretty much how you describe them. I have to go to bed and they can last for anything from a few hours to a few days or they can become chronic daily migraines. I also go very sensitive to light and sound but for me I have this symptom regularly without headaches due to my Existing health issues.

    I visited a headache clinic to see a neurologist when I went into a phase of chronic daily migraine that got very severe and I wasn’t coping. He told me to completely stop taking all pain relief medication and to completely quit anything containing caffeine. He gave me a booklet all about severe chronic migraine. I followed his advice and was warned that at first it would make the headache worse for a while before it improved and this indeed made my headaches worse (I thought they’d never get worse but they did) for quite a while. I got menthol 4head stick and used cold patches which somewhat helped me through this difficult time. I changed my diet and I was put on amitriptyline (this is a tricyclic antidepressant but used in lower doses it is a preventative treatment for chronic migraine). Over time the headaches became less frequent and more bearable. After 6 months of less headaches I weaned off the amitriptyline.

    I still get the migraine without aura and the severe headaches but not as many per month and certainly not as many that last for days. I tend to flare during periods that I’m struggling with my neck or more recently being fifty years old and female bodied I’m having issues with hormone fluctuations which are making the migraines worse during certain times of the month.

    John is correct when he mentions beta blockers as a preventative treatment as well. They tell your blood vessels In the brain to relax so the normal blood flow can occur. (Migraine is caused when blood vessels constrict and then more blood flows to the brain and the vessels then dilate causing pain. So the beta blockers relax the vessels). Propranolol is a good beta blocker for this but the side effects of propranolol can cause a lot of daytime fatigue. I favour amitriptyline as a first line preventative because once you’ve been taking it for a couple of weeks, the side effect of daytime fatigue somewhat diminishes. An added bonus of amitriptyline is that if you suffer from insomnia it can help you sleep.

    I also get lots of headaches that come from neck muscle tension and these can develop into migraine headaches. I have used heat pads across my neck and shoulders to ease any tension. This can sometimes help.

    I also use tiger balm white on the temples and on my neck and sometimes I use a 10% ibuprofen gel on my neck and shoulders.

    So to summarise,
    1. If you’re taking pain relief medication regularly check out “medication overuse headache”. I have a rule now where I don’t take pain relief medication for more than two days in a row and then I give at least five days off and it seems to have kept the medication overuse headaches away.

    2. try to get a scan on your cervical spine just to check for issues with bulging discs or arthritis (my cervical spondylitis began in my mid 20s)

    3. ask about amitriptyline as a preventative

    4. If amitriptyline doesn’t work or isn’t an option there are beta blockers you could try. Propranolol is one option.

    5. use menthol and cold patches to help alleviate symptoms.

    6 Always keep well hydrated.

    A last thought too. Some migraine headaches are particularly troublesome during the times after stress or times when you’re relaxing at weekend say after working all week. Sometimes it can be due to lying in and missing the coffee (caffeine withdrawal headache) or it can be down to dehydration through lying in. Sometimes the cause is unknown.

    good luck in finding relief for this debilitating condition. You’re not alone. I’ve managed to get mine under control for the moment so that I don’t experience them every day. But the slightest over exertion can trigger bouts of severe headache. I have to be careful.

    message me any time if you need to talk with someone who understands.

    hugs
    JC :) 
     
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    Being on the other side of the planet I can’t invite you over for a mug or a tutorial.
    However, the best way to approach this is to forget anything expensive and complcated like a home espresso machine and go with the plunger method. Spend the money you’ve saved on a small electric grinder and ONLY GRIND AS MANY BEANS AS YOU”LL NEED FOR TWO DAYS AT MOST. Never keep beans or ground coffee in a container that exposes them to light.
    When buying beens try and avoid any roasted by an Italian firm. You're safest going for a locally roasted Columbian bean. Experiment with how much ground coffee you like to use starting off at the lower end of the spectrum. Never add boiling water to the grounds. Allow the water to boil then sit for 60 seconds before poring into the plunger. Jiggle the plunger gently then put it down for at least 2mins before pushing the plunging mechanism down.
    Next time you make coffee rinse the plunging part in cold water to remove the old grounds.
    And here’s a radical suggestion if you prefer your coffee white. Use rice milk, not cow’s milk and don’t even think of adulterating your morning glory with anything as disgusting soy milk.
    And never pretend a cuppa of instant Nescafe is coffee.

    Here endeth the sermon for today.
     
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    You make more sense than most of the migraine specialists I consulted in my youth.
    I have only one comment on your excellent dissertation. Beta blockers often induce daytime tiredness but just as often that effect fades after a few weeks . The question I cant answer is how safe is it for someone not suffering cardiac problems to take then constantly. Instance if an athlete with normal heart function took beta-blockers they could radically reduce their ability to suddenly increase their pulse when required.
    As to coffee in relation to migraine it appears reactions are often very different for different individuals. One nasty effect I have noticed with a wide range of migraine sufferers comes from eating dark chocolate in a sufficient quantity.
    Even though I dont suffer from migraine any more (apart from the visual disturbances) chocolate will reliably bring on a ‘normal’ headache.
     
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    Hello John,

    Thank you for the advice regarding beta blockers. The only experiences I have with them are with that of my son and myself. My son also has EDS and POTS and we both have propranolol to help in times of tachycardia, irregular heart beat and high adrenaline levels. We take them as and when needed at a very low dose. I remember my son being put on a higher dose to help with anxiety and he simply couldn’t tolerate them. He struggled to even walk up a slight incline. He is in his twenties. I put it down to the fact that the beta blocker slows the heart rate down and that could have been the reason why he struggled. But as you say, if you take them over a longer period of time this effect may be something the body gets used to. I always find it interesting how different people react to the same medication in different ways. I have a low tolerance to drugs and I’m highly sensitive Even with small doses.

    I remember a cardiologist saying to me when I was younger and had just been told I had ectopic heart beats, “I could give you beta blockers but they are poison taken long term and you’re too young, so manage without if you can”. I did a bit of research and found out that long term they can have several unwanted effects on the body that can be quite damaging. So after that I only ever take them when I really struggle with tachycardia/irregular beats and high adrenaline levels just as and when needed. I guess this is the same for a lot of drugs.

    As for athletes, most have slightly lower blood pressure due to their fitness. (My cardiologist tells me I have the blood pressure of an athlete due to it being lower. I only wish I had their fitness levels too!), so I’d imagine they would struggle taking beta blockers. They would have a difference in their heart rates during exercise as it would be lowered. You make an interesting point there. One I must research! It does make me wonder if the effects of taking beta blockers on someone with a healthy heart could damage the heart in the long term.

    i find the study of medicines and how they Work really interesting. I studied health sciences and human biology to degree level many years ago. I’ve forgotten a lot of what I studied but occasionally go back and research on illnesses and drugs, particularly if I’ve been prescribed something myself.

    As for dark chocolate, yes this is a major trigger for a lot of people. But try to figure this one out. I can only drink decaffeinated tea and coffee, yet I can eat as much chocolate (including dark) as I like and it has never been a trigger for my migraines. I’m such an odd one at times!

    Please forgive me if my response doesn’t make much sense. I’ve had another sleepless night due to pain and whatnot. I’ve quickly checked for mistakes but my eyes are misted over. I’m going to try and see if I can get a little sleep now as my heat pad seems to have eased things a bit.

    Hugs
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    You’ve given me a scare about long term effects of beta-blockers which I’ll have to follow up. I’ve been on them now for about 9 years. I’m told the only thing that’s preventing me having a stroke is the combination of blood thinners and beta-blockers.
    The trap is that without them I really get into trouble. If I forget my regular dose by three or four hours I induce a nasty episode. However taking my normal amount when I realise my mistake PLUS 2mg of Valium brings the heart beat down within 15 mins.

    No need for anything like an apology for ‘not making sense’. You make more sense than most people discussing such matters. including a few medical practitioners I’ve encountered..

    Thanks for the hugs - - - on my system the forum appears to provide no method of adding emojis that I can see.....
     
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    Ahh I’m so sorry to have scared you regarding the beta blockers. Please don’t worry. My father is 78 and had been on them since he was in his forties and he is fine. Also I have a friend who was born with a hole in her heart and she has had to take them all her life and she is now in her thirties.

    Most drugs have some sort of long term side effects but I think that we have to weigh up benefits and risks. If we research then we will always find possible long term effects of taking any medication.

    For example, since my mid twenties I have taken Amitriptyline on and off. Amitriptyline is an anticholinergic drug and there have been studies showing that these types of drug increase your risk of dementia if taken long term. I take amitriptyline to help control pain and also to help me sleep. It’s been a wonder drug for 25 years for me. It does scare me when I think of what it could do but the benefits outweigh the risks for me and I figured since dementia is already a part of my family history I could well get it anyway so what the hell.

    I wonder how many folk have had to take beta blockers for years and years and are absolutely fine? Lots more likely.

    You need this medication and I’m so glad it helps you. Please don’t worry about any long term effects.

    Now onto something of a completely different subject. I am ashamed to say I gave up playing classical piano when I was younger because I wasn’t too struck on classical music! My son plays classical piano and loves to play Chopin, of which I only mastered one or two of his works. As I’ve got older I do like some classical but I haven’t gone too deeply into it, favouring pop music. I read one of your conversations on the forum and I couldn’t even join in because of my lack of knowledge on the subject. Considering I did my grades when I was younger you would think I would have gone into the classical side a bit more!!

    I absolutely love the sound of the pipe organ and there are a few pieces I have enjoyed listening to over the years. As for piano I love Rachmaninov and Beethoven. Would you like to proceed with the classical music thread in the music section that you mentioned? I’d love to learn about more classical works if you’d like to share your knowledge. If not then that’s absolutely ok.

    It would be lovely if Iharos would join in too. You both have such a vast knowledge on the subject!

    Anyway I managed some sleep so that’s good.

    more hugs for you
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    Iharos has a far greater font of knowledge of classical music than me. Plus he sings medieval, ressaissace an baroque pieces and teaches piano. My musicianship died a nasty and very traumatic death due to the evils I was confronted with behind the scenes at the cathedral where I studied the organ.

    Thanks for your reassurances regarding beta blockers. I really need to calm down about this as at age 73 I’ve had a longer period on the planet than I ever expected.
     
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    Your dreams.. Do you remember them? Do you become aware in them? Do you keep a record of them? Maybe you should. But they can help. You will get all the answers in there. Sorry about your headaches *hugs*
     
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    I can well believe the evils you were confronted with. I absolutely loathe organised religion. I won’t even start on that subject. But I’m sorry this caused you to have to end your musicianship and not be able to play the organ in the cathedral any more.
     
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    Your dreams.. Do you remember them? Do you become aware in them? Do you keep a record of them? Maybe you should. But they can help. You will get all the answers in there. Sorry about your headaches *hugs*
     
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    Some dreams I remember in detail. Some I only remember the ‘mood’ they reflected.
    When younger I could wake myself from an unpleasant dream, consciously alter the plot then return to sleep with a better outcome.
    I have a repeating kind of dream in which I’m flying over an architecturally fascinating and very beautiful city, trees growing from rooftops all set in vast parklands. There are however no visible inhabitants. I have no idea what they mean but they are wonderful. I appear to have control over which direction I’m flying in; even more puzzling. The sense of ‘reality’ is overwhealming.

    As a young child I had recuring nightmares of being in the ocean. A large ocean liner heading straight at me dragged me under water all the way to the read of the ship where the propellers chopped me to pieces. Again I have no idea where this scenario originated.
    We are strange creatures.
     

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